Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone:
Welcome A/all and To begin... first an announcement...

As those that have been here for previous classes are aware, Professor Osanogokoro has taught the classes, lead the discussions. Just the other day i recieved an email from the Professor and with regrets He will not be available for while to teach our classes or lead the discussions for awhile, again this is temporary. However Osan and i were already in the midst of finding additional T/teachers for classes on various subjects and i have found someOne, to guide the Discussion Night which will now be held on Sunday evenings, @ 8PM EST. i will continue the search for those with specialized experiences within BDSM to come to The Edge and teach. Until then...

Havoc says to Hobbes: greetings *S* good to see you

JD says to ~lolli~: hi lolli *s*

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone: Yyou have me. i will do my best to offer an assortment of classes on various subjects within and around BDSM. i do ask that Yyou all bear with me, as this is my first class. i do promise to do my best and i hope to present to Yyou A/all the interesting and bizarre sides of BDSM, perhaps even some things not everyone already knows. i have used an assortment of resources as well as my own experiences to design this lesson, so if Yyou do want further information, after class, i can share those resources with Yyou.

Please refrain from chatting and open greeting during the class and offer instead Yyour greetings in PM. It will be appreciated. All class related/on-topic comments are welcome during class. i will try to keep the class moving along within a reasonable time frame of a little over 1 hour. Leaving plenty of time for chatting afterwards. As i mentioned there is Discussion Night on Sunday, so for anyone who does want to delve deeper into anything mentioned in class, please come to the Discussion, the topic will be, BDSM Defined. Hobbes will be guiding that evening.

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone:a snippet from Oour Professor Osan - "Feel free to PM with any questions that come to mind, i''ll answer in kind, then repost them where appropriate in the open. Being that the online world lacks anything more than loosely-agreed-upon conventions for its etiquette guidelines, the opinions offered by this course are entirely my own, based on my personal experience in chat, BDSM, and the world in general. More experienced participants have the potential to serve as additional help, to broaden everyone's mutual understanding with additional perspectives, so please, if you have something to contribute, PM it to me and i'll work it in where i can." - He said that so much better than i could have. *L*

Rune says to everyone: Evening All

~lolli~ Owned by HB says to everyone: *blinks then nods realizing she did say various subjects not various objects* *L*

~andi~ slips over, curling up on the overstuffed pillow by ~lolli~ and says: shhhhhhhh

~lolli~ Owned by HB says to andrea gail: *winks at you and makes a buttoning my lip motion*

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone: continuing on with the lecture's introduction*

BDSM - Defined

BDSM Defined

BDSM is an abbreviation. It's three pairs of initials bound into just four letters - B/D/S/M. The initials by themselves and the categories are (Bondage)
(Discipline and/or Dominance)
(Submission and/or Sadomasochism)

BDSM also is related to other activities that don't fit precisely into any of those categories.

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to ~lolli~: i am watching you *w* did you see the suggestion on the board for the likes of you... *w*

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone:

1. Bondage relates to tying people up or being tied up.

It can also relate to chaining up, or restraining with straps, straight jackets, and/or anything else you can use to restrain.
For some, this is the only part of BDSM that they are into. Some are very creative and hone their bondage skills to Japanese Rope Bondage, a skill in it self. Very often, bondage is just one part of the BDSM experience though.

~lolli~ Owned by HB says to tyme: *shakes my boobies at you as you watch me, then laughs* I am protected from such activities *G*

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone:

2. Discipline is just that, disciplining. Most common discipline activities are spankings, canings, caging. It can involve lectures, stern language and/or solitude, the corner, being shut down for a specified period in a *discipline* time-out.
Bondage and Discipline are often combined.

~andi~ Cupid's Mailbox says to ~lolli~: ~snickers~....there was something on the board for the likes of you?...lol

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to andrea gail: and you *w*

~lolli~ Owned by HB says to andrea gail: *whispers* you too *gulps*

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone:

3. Dominance and submission are parts of a power exchange, they involve trust and obedience as well. A situation where one person submits to another or is submissive to another’s will, obeying their commands.
Often it is a formal agreement/relationship, but can be just a one-off, role-playing scene in the bedroom or on the screen of a chat room. Like Bondage, D/s can be separate activity, but more likely it is incorporated with other areas of BDSM. As an example, Bondage could be used to restrain and increase another’s feeling of submission, or perhaps as a way to restrain while participating in edge or pain play, the Sado-Masochism part of BDSM or it may simply be used as part of restraint during Discipline.

~andi~ Cupid's Mailbox says to ~lolli~: i feel special....shhhhhh

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone:

4. Sado-Masochism = Sadism and Masochism. S/M involves the use of stronger directed actions. It is associated with physical pain, but it can be solely focused people's minds.
The mind-fuck, many may have heard of would fall into this category, but not solely as it could be used for discipline as well. Also there is each individuals perception of pain, to some the physical *pain* isn't seen as pain, but as arousal. Also though pain generally is seen as being delivered through spankings, floggings and the like, tickling is a BDSM activity that can and does fall into the category of a sadist act by some people.

Rune says to tyme: re bondage .Does it have to be physical . Some of the bonds created are not physical but far more powerful. Just a thought ?

~lolli~ Owned by HB says to andrea gail: *nods and smiles*

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to Rune: good thought, and mind fucking is later in the class *w*

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone:

What BDSM is not.

In particular, BDSM is NOT abuse! People who are practicing BDSM in any of its trillions of forms are doing it voluntarily, for fun. It's a way to explore. Everything that happens in a BDSM relationship is consensual; and believe it or not, it's not just about the dominant getting what he or she wants--it's very often more about the submissive getting what he or she wants. An abuser has no regard for the feelings, needs, or limits of the victim. A BDSM dominant is concerned above all else with the needs and desires of the submissive. In a BDSM relationship, the submissive sets their limits. A victim of abuse doesn't get a vote; the victim can't tell the abuser what to do, or how much to do it. A submissive sets all their limits--what kinds of things can be (and can't be!) done, how much, and for how long. When there is something the Dom/me wants to do that hasn't been discussed, they discuss it and decide together or when attempted by the Dom/me (often referred to as *pushing the limits*) if the submissive isn't ready to go there and uses a safe word, the Dom/me respects that and stops. An abuse victim doesn't tell the abuser when to stop.

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone: okay billions *s*

Wraith{tyme} Cupid's Mailbox Softly caresses tyme's cheek with a warm palm and says: thank you pet..couldn't get My head wrapped around trillions..*S*

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone:

BDSM is not what it looks like from the outside.

It's not just tying people up and having sex, and it's not just arbitrarily whipping people. That's very crude as well boring if that was all there was to it. What it is is a sort of role-playing, where the people involved are acting out a fantasy that involves taking or giving up power. Sex is often involved, but sex is not always involved.

~lolli~ Owned by HB says to Wraith: *gets distracted for a moment watching You caress Yourself, ignoring that I drooled on ~andi~*

~andi~ Cupid's Mailbox says to ~lolli~: ahhhh....if you're gonna drool....geez....~grabs a towel~......shhhhh!

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Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone:

Some additional terminology related to BDSM

Being a top, a bottom, or a switch. Some people like to be tied up, whipped and in general, like to obey, this would be an example of someone who might be a bottom. Then there are those that like to do the whipping, the bondage and give orders, this would be an example someone who is topping. Then there is the switch who likes both, generally one role at a time. An example of the seemly set roles would be the Dom/me that orders the submissive to top him or her by administering a spanking. In that example, the dominant person/the top has ordered the bottom/submissive to top them, but have they, really given up control? I mean the Dom/me is still the guiding force of that scenario. In D/S, a top orders or controls a bottom. In S/M, a top likes to provide pain or another sadistic act to a bottom. In bondage, a top likes to tie up bottoms.

~lolli~ Owned by HB says to andrea gail: *looks at you wondering just what you are going on about, then fans myself and turns to tyme to pay attention before you get me in trouble* *L*

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone:

It's not always the top who is in control of things, sometimes, it is less often than it appears. A bottom might ask to be flogged, and his or her top might agree to do that, asking the bottom if there are any particular things he or she wants the top to do to him or her tonight.
Also, most people use a safe word, a code word that means, STOP, I really need you to stop now. If a couple uses a safe word, the bottom has equal power and control of the session. Some people claim that the bottom is always the one who's really in control, no matter how things look. They're mostly right, but things can, and usually do, get more much more complicated.

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone:

To clarify things people appreciate definitions and terminology that is generally used by most people.

i will list many of the most common terms i could find but this list does not contain every possible term, i would recommend if you do encounter a term that you don't understand, no matter whether you are in a BDSM club or a BDSM chat room, you need to ask.

There are no concrete rules or protocols in BDSM, only the ones between the individuals involved.

1. Manners - manners should always be used, no matter where you are, no matter your role.
2. As a Dom/me don't expect that all submissives are your submissive. That is totally unacceptable! As is the notion that just because you are submissive, all Dom/mes will treat you as their own. That too is unacceptable.

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone:

Who is Real?

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The following are provided as examples of BDSM - what works for a given couple or in a given situation, your experiences may vary.
A Dom/me and submissive go to dinner.
In one example, the submissive orders the meal as they should know and anticipate what their Dom/mes needs, wants and desires are.
The other example is that the Dom/me orders, as they are in control at all times.
Both scenarios work, because these are the roles in which they both have agreed to participate or live.
Each relationship will define their roles as Dominate and submissive. Let NO ONE tell you that you are wrong. If a situation works for all involved, then it is right for them.

Onto some definitions.... after the teacher dashes to pee, having asked for permission before posting this....cuz i am just that way.... talk amongst Yyourselves please

Butterfly Kisses says to everyone: *thinks about what has been said so far*

~lolli~ Owned by HB says to andrea gail: Did she just give us permission to talk? *laughs* Oh how brave *L*

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~andi~ Cupid's Mailbox says to ~lolli~: ~licks~....see i told you she luvs us...*nods lots*

~andi~ Cupid's Mailbox

says to ~lolli~: lol

Rune says to tyme: A Dom/me and submissive go to dinner. ..Who pays ?

~andi~ Cupid's Mailbox says to Rune: the butler...they always do it...*S*

Hobbes says to Rune: ...~g~...nicely played, Sir...

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to Rune: You pay, but only because You insisted as i recall *w*

~lolli~ Owned by HB says to andrea gail: *leans close* think she has erasers?

~Lovely Latin~ enters The Edge

~Lovely Latin~ says to everyone: hello

Wraith{tyme} Cupid's Mailbox says to Rune: Hmmmm..the total bill is usually located on the *bottom*

~andi~ Cupid's Mailbox says to ~lolli~: probably with rocks attached...*nods lots*

~lolli~ Owned by HB says to Rune: The G/guy of course *L*

Butterfly Kisses says to Rune: the first person to touch it *chuckles*

‡ dark muse ‡ Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone: Welcomes E/everyone to tonight’s discussion ....*warm smile*

toy (f) says to Wraith: good evening Sir.... - smile -

~lolli~ Owned by HB says to Wraith: Haha *L*

~Lovely Latin~ says to everyone: have a wonderful evening

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to ~lolli~: *leaves you and andi a pile of *quiet erasers* and gets on with it *w*

~Lovely Latin~ leaves The Edge

~lolli~ Owned by HB : Howdy *S*

CanadianMale says to ‡ dark muse ‡: waves

~andi~ Cupid's Mailbox says to ~lolli~: ~glances at you~....quiet erasers?....lol

~lolli~ Owned by HB says to andrea gail: ut-oh *shifts a little behind you* *L*

‡ dark muse ‡ Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone: All conversations not related to pm now please...*smiles*

Rune says to Wraith: simple thing like paying a bill though it can be played both ways Dominant or submissive ..maybe they can go and take turns ;)

CanadianMale says to andrea gail: hiya andi

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone: Definitions will come a few at time.....

~lolli~ Owned by HB says to andrea gail: *shrugs* I have no idea *L* Bet HB would like one though *L*

Wraith{tyme} Cupid's Mailbox says to Rune: I suppose the paying of the bill could be taken out of role

Rune says to ~lolli~: what a sexist comment ! lol so it does not matter the role its the sex that counts Hmmm lol

Wraith's tyme Cupid's Mailbox says to everyone:

24/7 = 24 hours a day 7 days a week

BDSM = Bondage and Discipline (B/D), Domination and Submission (D/S), Sadomasochism (S/M). BDSM is not a psychological disorder, but rather, lots of fun.

Bondage =The act of being tied or bound. Usually involves rope although often leather or other materials as well.

bottom = A term used for most that play in the submissive role. Bottoms give up control, but only for the play time.

CBT= Cock and ball torture or torment.