(00:49:10 ®)
Wraith's tyme says to everyone:

greetings and welcome to The Edge's U of N Class night, our Instructor for tonight is Havoc. The topic tonight (and for Sunday's Discussion) is "What makes a good Dom/me?". Please keep Yyour greetings and comments to PM unless they are class related, i do hope Yyou will stay for the Class, Dom/me or submissive, and enjoy it.

(00:50:07)
Havoc says to everyone:

What Makes a good Dominant?
Being Dominant is complex, detailed, and no matter how complete the description, it falls impossibly short of reality. But for the purpose of better understanding the lifestyle, and the Dominant role within it, I shall endeavor to do My best. Here then in no particular order, is My own impossibly incomplete description of what it means to be Dominant.

(00:50:10 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to everyone: ~curls up on my pillow...props my chin in my hand...ponders where my PiC is~

(00:51:12)
Havoc says to everyone:

Mastery of One's Self: A Dominant must always be in control of Him/Her Self. As a Master/Mistress, the Dominant will take charge of a submissive. It is impossible to take on the responsibility of Mastering another if One cannot Master themselves.

(00:51:47)
Havoc says to everyone:

Personal Standards: A Dominant must set and maintain high personal standards for Themselves. They must be an example to O/others, including Their submissive.

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Havoc says to everyone:

Self Respect: If not given to Themselves, it can not be shown to O/others.

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Wraith's tyme
says to Havoc: raise a hand

(00:52:51)
Havoc says to tyme: yes?

(00:53:32 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to Havoc: do You think that ....the self respect part goes for the subs as well, they should have a good level of self respect to be worth anything to a Dom/me?

(00:54:24 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to andrea gail: *pings you with an eraser* while He is answering and not looking *w*

(00:54:43)
Havoc says to tyme: yes I do, I think self respect is important for either the top or bottom

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Wraith's tyme
says to Havoc: smiles....thank You Sir *s*

(00:55:34)
Havoc says to everyone:

Self Control: Many things in life may challenge a Dominant. Control of One’s Self is essential when those challenges present themselves.

(00:56:12)
Havoc says to everyone:

Self Secure: A Dominant must know Themselves, and feel comfortable within Their Own skin to project Themselves in a true fashion. They will be challenged, and must be secure enough to tolerate differing opinions and views without considering them as condemnation.

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Havoc says to everyone:

Compassionate & Understanding: A Dominant must be sensitive to the needs of O/others. As Master/Mistress the Dominant will be responsible for the emotional well-being of a submissive that requires an open and accessible Dominant. They must be willing to share, and actively demonstrate that sharing in return is both safe and healthy.

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Havoc says to everyone:

Communicative: A Dominant must be able to communicate effectively in any situation, under any circumstances, in a variety of verbal and non-verbal ways.

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Havoc says to everyone:

Honesty: This is more than a concept, or a feeling. Honesty is expressed through actions. And only in demonstrating honesty, will it be seen by O/others.

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Havoc says to everyone:

Teacher/Guide: Dominants must meet the needs of a submissive for guidance. They are responsible for the personal and lifestyle growth of Their one. Their actions should be an example that teaches and guides E/everyone They come in contact with.

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Havoc says to everyone:

Well Rounded: W/we often forget that D/s is a lifestyle, and a Dominant must be full and complete. A Dominant must be romantic, happy, playful, have a sense of humor, have interests and pleasures, and all the things that make a complete human being.

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Havoc says to everyone:

Devoted: A Dominant must be Someone that can be counted on to be there, and to be available. When there is a problem, or Their submissive needs assistance, the Dominant must make every good faith effort to demonstrate that devotion.

(01:01:01 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to tyme: ~reaches over.....smacks your ass without missing a thing....smiles~.....i'm so multi talented...*w*

(01:01:24)
Havoc says to everyone:

Loving: There is no relationship without love. And although not every D/s relationship is built upon love, it is an essential part of any relationship for Me.

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Havoc says to everyone:

Protective: A submissive must feel safe and secure, both physically and emotionally.

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Havoc says to everyone:

Accepting: No O/one is perfect, W/we are A/all human. A Dominant must accept and demonstrate that to Their submissive; giving permission to be human.

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Havoc says to everyone:

Forgiving: Every human being will make mistakes. Dominants included. They must be able to forgive O/others, as well as Themselves.

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Havoc says to everyone:

Reassuring: A submissive needs to be reassured frequently. To know that they are valued and treasured. To know that their efforts and submission are noticed and appreciated.

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Havoc says to everyone:

Firm and Consistent: A submissive needs that consistency of expectations. Once rules and acceptable behaviors are established and communicated, they must be firmly and consistently applied. Do not, however, confuse firm with “domineering”.

(01:06:31)
Havoc says to everyone:

Patient All things take time. Knowing and accepting that E/everyone moves at T/their O/own pace, within their individual capabilities, is essential.

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Havoc says to everyone:

Creative There is always more than one way to skin a cat, and different people respond in unique ways. Being adaptable and creative will yield better results, and make for a more satisfying and less stagnant relationship.

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~andrea gail~
says to tyme: yeah so if i'm selective that's good!....~pinches~...ha!

(01:07:59 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to andrea gail: i think there is a difference between picky and selective *w*

(01:08:08)
Havoc says to everyone:

What to look for to identify these qualities

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Wraith's tyme
says to Havoc: smiles

(01:08:30)
Havoc says to everyone:

Is the Dominant flying into a rage of anger at things that upset them? This would indicate a number of things, lack of patience, lack of self control. Someone you might not want to be standing over your bound body with a crop in their hand.

(01:08:32 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to tyme: is not!

(01:08:44 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Havoc: *w*

(01:09:02)
Havoc says to andrea gail:
are you taking notes?

(01:09:23 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Havoc: ~nods~...good point!

(01:09:26 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to Havoc: *smiles* i am Sir.... i will email her *w*

(01:09:41)
Havoc says to everyone:

Does the Dominant garner the respect of O/others or do they talk down to E/everyone as though only their opinion matters?

Does the Dominant display devotion, and honesty? Have you caught them telling you differing stories? Did they tell you they were the CEO of the company that they actually work at, however their job description is actually that of a maintenance worker? Their position at work may not be important to you, but the fact that they lied should be.

(01:09:43 Signon) ~angel~ enters The Edge

(01:09:50) Hobbes
says to Havoc: ...you probably need to keep her after class...

(01:10:00 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Havoc: am i supposed to be?...lol

(01:10:16)
Havoc says to Hobbes:
yes I think I might *L*

(01:10:25 ®)
~andrea gail~
swats ~angel~'s ass, turns quickly with a grin and says: shhhhhhhhhh

(01:11:06 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Hobbes: ~smiles~....thank You...lol

(01:11:14)
Havoc says to everyone:

In v/t watching the posts and the actions depicted in those posts can often tell you alot about a person. In r/t it is much harder to hide these traits. But either way you should be always cognizant of what you are hearing and how it relates to the qualities of that person.

(01:11:41) Hobbes
says to andrea gail: ...~winks~...

(01:12:36)
Havoc says to everyone:

Thumb Rules for Ds Relationships

Author Unknown

Ten Rules for Dominants

1. Be patient! Until you enter into a contract with a submissive, you have no more right to order him/her around than does anyone else. Give your submissive time to get to know you and what you are like. There is no need to rush into something that can cause emotional pain to both of the parties involved because you feel the need to rush things. Finesse and subtlety are major elements of dominance. Similarly, strength and gentleness go hand in hand. The sensitivity and awareness (or lack thereof) that you show in the real world is likely to be repeated in the playroom.

Ten Rules for Submissives

1. Be patient! A potential top will let you know if she or he is interested in you or not. Keep in mind that your purpose as a submissive is to serve and to satisfy someone who will take into consideration the realization of your fantasies. Don't expect your top to be able to turn on like a light switch. The timing must be right for both of you.

(01:12:54 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to andrea gail: pings another eraser at the Teacher's pet *w*

(01:13:45)
Havoc says to everyone:

Ten Rules for Dominants

2. Be humble. You may be God's/Goddess' gift to the world, but no one needs to hear it or wants to hear it. You will have ample opportunities to show how good you are - and plenty of opportunities to make a fool of yourself. No matter what you claim, the 'real you' will show through in a scene. Don't set yourself up for a failure by developing expectations that you know you can never reach.

Ten Rules for Submissives

2. Be humble. You may be God's or Goddess' gift to the world and the most sought after prize in town, but no one needs to hear it or wants to hear it. You will have ample opportunity to show how good you are. No matter what you claim, the "real you" will show through in a scene. Don't set yourself up for failure by developing expectations that you know you and your top can never reach.

(01:13:50 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to tyme: hey!....i'm sittin over here and i'm not pettin nuttin....yet...*S*

(01:14:33 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to Wraith: #2 doesn't relate to You Sir *w* least not in a chatroom *w*

(01:14:37)
~angel~
says to andrea gail: if he stutters...we will know why-l-

(01:14:59)
Havoc says to everyone:

Ten Rules for Dominants

3. Be open. Although the top is classically considered to be the teacher in SM, you can always learn from your bottom, no matter how inexperienced. Be willing to learn from other dominants who may have a totally different perspective from yours. There are tons of different perspectives on the same actions or thoughts. Be willing to embrace those that might work for you, but don't discard those that work for others. Try to approach by-now-familiar trips with an attitude of wonderment and discovery. Be aware that everyone has her or his own personal style.

Ten Rules for Submissives

3. Be open. You can learn something about SM and about yourself from everyone into the scene, no matter how experienced or inexperienced they are, or how dominant or submissive they are. SM is a very personal art, and an "I already know it all" attitude will make you miss valuable SM lessons and experiences, and ignore potentially valuable SM friends.

(01:15:11 ®)
Wraith{tyme}
says to tyme:
Tilts My head..huh ?...are you saying that I exude humblosity ??

(01:15:39 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to tyme: oooooo ~snaps~....omg...lol

(01:15:45)
~angel~
says to Wraith: no...I think shes sayin you are a god -nods

(01:15:52 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to Wraith: smiles..... knowing that *s*

(01:16:09 ®)
Wraith{tyme}
says to ~angel~:
I am far to humble to even comment on that post

(01:16:19)
Havoc says to everyone:

Ten Rules for Dominants

4. Communicate! You are responsible for finding out basic, essential information about the people you play with, such as experience, limits, likes and dislikes, and health information. Playing SM without this knowledge is like Russian roulette. Talk about your head-space and your view of SM with your bottom, so that any uncertainties can be dealt with before you start playing. Clearly spell out roles, rules, limits, and contracts. Do not take for granted that your bottom instinctively knows the ground rules.

Ten Rules for Submissives

4. Communicate! Verbalization is necessary, but at the appropriate time and in the appropriate way. Your top needs to know basic information about you, such as experiences, fantasies, health concerns, and turn-offs. But - unless it's an emergency - wait until your top asks. Don't expect your dominant to be a mind-reader who instinctively knows your needs, wants, and limits. Your cooperation will enhance the scene for both of you.

(01:17:05 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to ~angel~: ~glances at you~...wonder if that's the same as "i don't know nuttin"..lol

(01:17:21)
Havoc says to everyone:

Ten Rules for Dominants

5. Be honest. If you lack experience in an area that your bottom would like to experiment with, be honest about it. Your partner has a right to know that. Be honest with yourself and take your submissive only to those levels at which you are completely in control of the situation. SAFETY SHOULD ALWAYS BE THE FIRST CONCERN, taking priority over how hot a particular scene is.

Ten Rules for Submissives

5. Be honest. Don't be afraid to share your needs and fantasies. Your dominant expects it. Honesty about your wants, health concerns, and turn-offs is essential to a good scene. Lying or being less than candid can only lead to problems, as the top will base the scene on inaccurate information. Besides causing problems, it can be dangerous. Honesty is the hallmark of any relationship, D/s or vanilla.

(01:18:24)
Havoc says to everyone:

Ten Rules for Dominants

6. Be sensitive. There's a very fine line between a sensitive, caring dominant and a self-righteous, insensitive overbearing clod. Your scene should be a creative synthesis of your needs and fantasies and your bottom's needs and fantasies. Although, on the surface, your submissive is serving you, what actually is happening is that dominant and submissive are serving each other. Earn the complete trust of your submissive and never violate or even threaten to violate that trust. His or her submission is a gift to you. Use it appropriately. Realize that your submissive is human and entitled to have good and bad days. Be understanding of those bad days and offer the compassion to lift them past those times into a reassured state that you will continue to grow.

Ten Rules for Submissives

6. Be vulnerable. Your scene is a two-way street. It is not just the physical realization of your prior fantasies. If you want to limit your experience to certain physical and psychological stimulation, then contract with your top ahead of time. But don't always expect your top to be a puppet in a fantasy play you've written in your head. It's far better to let your top surprise you, to extend your limits, to take you to places you're never been before. When you trust your top completely, let her or him know it, and let him or her guide you into new fantasies.

(01:18:45 ® Signon) Sir Ohpa {d}~enters The Edge

(01:19:53)
Havoc says to everyone:

Ten Rules for Dominants

7. Be realistic. End the scene with the bottom wanting more, not wishing there had been less. Remember that power, control, and sensitivity are the keys, not just the intensity of the stimulation. Be clear about what is fantasy, and has little to do with what works in practice. Your favorite porno picture books may be stimulating in themselves, but don't try to imitate them to the last detail.

Ten Rules for Submissives

7. Be realistic. Your dominant is human, and even the most experienced tops have moments of awkwardness and indecision. Don't call attention to what you perceive as a lapse. Know the difference between reality and the fantasy world you see in books and magazines. Few tops are rich enough to afford a large dungeon with a lavish layout of equipment. Your top's equipment is expensive - respect it and don't abuse it.

(01:19:53 ®)
Sir Ohpa {d}~
says to andrea gail: thank you...and hello *s*

(01:20:50 ®)
Sir Ohpa {d}~
says to Wraith: thank you....greetiing it is nice to meet you....*s*

(01:21:19)
Havoc says to everyone:

Ten Rules for Dominants

8. Be really dominant! Submissives are looking for someone who will take over their body and mind, not just for brute strength. Real people are wanted, not just cardboard images from cigarette ads or macho stereotypes. Your dominance enhances your whole existence. It does not cover up or substitute for other areas of your life - it is you. Make your submissive fall in love with you, and expect him or her to give him/herself up to you totally. Follow up on rules, expect obedience, and punish appropriately when it is called for, always displaying consistency. Don't shirk your responsibility to your bottom or to your sister/fellow tops. Be dependable and expect dependability. You have agreed to take the dominant role - now take it!

Ten Rules for Submissives

8. Be really submissive! This is the whole point. Let your dominant take you over completely. Don't coach or second guess or be critical of your top. Exchange information on your special needs before the scene starts, but once it starts be quiet! If you insist on running a scene to your own specifications, then you should try being a top. You have agreed to limitations of your own power. Stay within those limitations. Respect and obey your top and expect punishment if you don't. Accept it gracefully and cheerfully. Your top has many things to be concerned with, including your safety and what turns you on. Be loyal and dependable and enjoy your role.

(01:21:36 ®)
Sir Ohpa {d}~
says to Wraith: I do that myself many times.*l*....guess I am normal afterall...*l*

(01:22:19 Signon) SK's phaedra enters The Edge

(01:22:35) SK's phaedra
says to everyone:
*slips in quiet and settles in to listen*

(01:23:06)
Havoc says to everyone:

Ten Rules for Dominants

9. Be healthy! Like any strenuous activity, SM requires that its participants be in top physical and emotional health. Many factors, including the amount you sleep, your eating habits, and your alcohol and drug intake affect your performance and endurance during a scene. Don't attempt to do SM when your physical or emotional energy is low. As a dominant you have a special responsibility to be in control of yourself and on top of the scene. An attitude of "drugs and alcohol don't affect me that much... I can do it anyway" violates your submissive's trust in you and can be dangerous. If you don't want to accept the responsibilities, you shouldn't be playing the game!

Ten Rules for Submissives

9. Be healthy! SM, like any strenuous activity, requires that its participants - both active and passive - be in top physical and emotional health. The amount you sleep, your eating habits, your alcohol and drug intake, and everyday stress affect your response and endurance during a scene. Your dominant needs to know when your physical or emotional energy is low. No matter how tempting a scene sounds, an "I want it all now" attitude when you aren't able to give your all will leave both of you feeling let down. You serve your dominant and yourself best by staying healthy.

(01:23:52 Signon) Cooler enters The Edge

(01:24:10)
Havoc says to everyone:

Ten Rules for Dominants

10. Have fun! After all, sex is all about having a good time. You have earned, and you are entitled to the unique, intense pleasures which come from responsible, creative SM play.

Ten Rules for Submissives

10. Have fun! After all, sex is all about having a good time. You have earned and you are entitled to the unique, intense pleasure which comes from responsible, creative SM play.

(01:24:37 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to Havoc: i know we have Discussion on Sunday, but i was hoping You could expand on this one : Self Secure: A Dominant must know Themselves, and feel comfortable within Their Own skin to project Themselves in a true fashion. They will be challenged, and must be secure enough to tolerate differing opinions and views without considering them as condemnation.

(01:27:46)
Havoc says to tyme:
well by that I mean that not everyone is going to see things exactly the same, and thats not a bad thing......it doesn't mean you are wrong there is just another way to see things is all........So you need to display your security in your thoughts while accepting those of others

(01:28:09 Signoff) Cooler leaves The Edge

(01:29:10 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to Havoc: so in otherwords, when looking at the Dom and deciding, soes He have self control, flying off the handle at another opinion would be a bad sign ?

(01:29:33 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Havoc: yep...accepting differing opinions...i'm all for that....lol

(01:29:52 ®)
Wraith{tyme}
says to andrea gail:
blinks

(01:29:53 Signon) Smooth Edge enters The Edge

(01:30:02 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Wraith: what?....lol

(01:30:08 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to andrea gail: launches yet another eraser at the accepting one *l*

(01:30:20 ®)
Wraith{tyme}

says to andrea gail: it was My turn to blink at you...seemed a good time

(01:30:31 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Wraith: i mean i'm all for Him doing that...lol.....cuz....well....You know...i'm a little contrary...*nods*

(01:30:47 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Smooth Edge: Good evening Sir..*S*

(01:30:49 ®)
Wraith{tyme}
says to andrea gail:
Hmmmm...a teeny bit prehaps

(01:30:51)
Havoc says to tyme:
yes I think it displays His temperament and self control and I would think that would be important to a submissive for her own safety

(01:31:11 ®)
Wraith's tyme

says to Havoc: yes Sir ....thank You Sir *s*

(01:31:32) Havoc says to everyone: Any more questions or comments?

(01:31:38 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Havoc: she keeps throwin stuff at me!....*S*...but what if He/She just has a very very strong opinion about their point of view and to voice it.....well...strongly....may look like flying off the handle?

(01:31:40) Smooth Edge says to andrea gail: Not greeting tonight *S*

(01:31:49 ®)
Wraith{tyme}
says to Havoc:
Is there going to be a quiz ?

(01:32:05)
~angel~
says to andrea gail: I have lots o' opinions -g-

(01:32:09) SK's phaedra
says to Wraith:
*blinks and waits for the quiz answer*

(01:32:12 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Wraith: ~holds my index finger and thumb a hair's breath apart~......very very minute...*nods*

(01:32:18) Smooth Edge says to everyone: A belief of Mine if I may share. One who cannot control Himself has no right seeking to control another.

(01:32:44 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Smooth Edge: Good evening Sir...lol

(01:32:47 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to Smooth Edge: i knew i liked You Sir *w* great opinion *s*

(01:33:02)
Havoc says to andrea gail:
well then I would think you would want to watch more closely for other signs.........but if it is happening repeatedly that would throw up a red flag to Me

(01:33:04) SK's phaedra
says to Smooth Edge:
*nodsnods my redhead* aye Sir and one would be wise not to place her care in One who cannot control His own self

(01:33:07 ®)
Wraith{tyme}
says to everyone:
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought....without accepting it

(01:33:08)
~angel~
says to Havoc: comment on #4...know the dom in question, because not all like to hafta drag it outta you...ie, some like when you volunteer the info instead of waiting for them to ask

(01:33:22 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Smooth Edge: You should have been here in the beginning....He made that point too...lol

(01:33:28)
Havoc says to Wraith:
no quiz but I am collecting the notes taken *S*

(01:33:30 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to ~angel~: so go ahead

(01:33:56)
~angel~
says to andrea gail: go ahead n what?-l-

(01:34:20) Smooth Edge says to andrea gail: I'm derivative??? *L*

(01:34:21) SK's phaedra
says to ~angel~:
but how do you know the difference? If you were to speak out with one who found that.....precocious and forward....that would not be a good thing

(01:34:22 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Smooth Edge: and i greeted You at (01:30:47) ...... just fyi...lol

(01:34:31 ®)
Wraith{tyme}
says to Havoc:
Oh...I don't have to take notes for I have a pornographic memory

(01:34:52 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to andrea gail: greetings and welcome to The Edge's U of N Class night, our Instructor for tonight is Havoc. The topic tonight (and for Sunday's Discussion) is "What makes a good Dom/me?". Please keep Yyour greetings and comments to PM unless they are class related, i do hope Yyou will stay for the Class, Dom/me or submissive, and enjoy it.

(01:34:55 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Havoc: ok...i will watch out for those People....*S*

(01:35:21 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Wraith: ~blinks~...have You been in the quote side of my brain again?

(01:35:56 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to ~angel~: i don't know...i'm behind...lol

(01:36:01)
Havoc says to andrea gail:
yes I think you better *S*

(01:36:09 ®) Wraith{tyme}
says to andrea gail:
I peeked in there but it was shambles so I had to use google

(01:36:16)
~angel~
says to SK's phaedra ~precious puckb...: it's a learning process...and sometimes they just point blank tell you....personally...I'd probably never serve someone who basically wanted a 'seen and not heard' type....my best answer is...observe...do they get impatient if you volunteer info...likes..dislikes....opinions on things you've seen

(01:36:32 Signon) CanadianMale enters The Edge

(01:36:35 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to tyme: ~leans forward....sinks my small white teeth into your luscious ass~

(01:36:53 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to CanadianMale: Greetings Sir...*S*

(01:36:58 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to andrea gail: i'm sorry did He say class was over ? *l*

(01:37:15)
~angel~
says to Smooth Edge: waves-

(01:37:19 ®)
Wraith{tyme}
says to tyme:
I didn't hear him say it was

(01:37:19 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to tyme: ~moves to the other side~....lol

(01:37:35 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Havoc: sorry Sir....~smiles~

(01:37:57)
Havoc says to everyone:

If there are no more questions or comments I would like to inform you that next weeks topic will be BDSM and Hypnosis and the instructor will be Senoj

(01:38:16) Smooth Edge says to everyone: A mistake that some make is to suggest there is only one "correct" path within the lifestyle. There are many approaches that suit different people.

(01:38:21 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Havoc: hmmm...might pick up some new stuff there...*S*

(01:38:25)
~angel~
says to SK's phaedra ~precious puckb...: but I'm odd anyway...I kinda like human types...ie..they fuck up, they know it, they apologize...if they arent sure, they tell me that too

(01:38:27)
Havoc says to everyone:

class is over *S*

(01:38:45 Signon) aaliyah enters The Edge

(01:38:45 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to Havoc: thank You Sir! wonderful class....thank You again for stepping up to the mic *w*

(01:38:45 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Wraith: Ha!

(01:38:52)
Havoc says to andrea gail:
if you take notes *S*

(01:38:56 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to aaliyah: welcome back...*S*

(01:39:00)
~angel~
says to Smooth Edge: agrees 100%

(01:39:03) SK's phaedra
says to ~angel~:
*nods n takes notes..giggles a little* i dont think i could actually serve One that wanted that type...

(01:39:04 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Havoc: You did a great job...*hugs*

(01:39:10) Smooth Edge says to tyme: Are these people allowed to greet Me tonight? *L* *staring at angel and andi*

(01:39:14)
Havoc says to tyme:
you're welcome *S*

(01:39:29) Hobbes
says to Havoc: Nicely done. ~s~

(01:39:31)
~angel~
says to Smooth Edge: I waved!..thats like...a quiet hello -g-

(01:39:42)
Havoc says to andrea gail:
thank you *S*

(01:39:43 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to Smooth Edge: now they are Sir *s* class is over....officially *w*

(01:39:46) CanadianMale says to everyone: sees class is over and waves hello to everyone

(01:39:48)
aaliyah
says to andrea gail: thank you *smiles*

(01:39:59)
Havoc says to Hobbes:
thank You *S*

(01:40:00)
~angel~
says to Smooth Edge: that and I think tymes got lead loaded erasers -nods- I didnt want to get one winged at me

(01:40:05) Smooth Edge says to ~angel~: *L*

(01:40:17)
aaliyah
says to Smooth Edge: Greetings Sir

(01:40:29 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to Smooth Edge: btw, hello Sir, great point that last one You made, i hope You will read the class transcripts as it was one of the points along with many others that Havoc posted *s*

(01:40:33 ®)
Wraith{tyme}
says to Smooth Edge:
Class is over now..How the fuck are Ya Smooth ?..*throws My bookbag over in the corner*

(01:40:37) Smooth Edge says to aaliyah: Evening aaliyah

(01:40:38 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to Smooth Edge: ~glares at You~.....i've greeted You twice....third time is going to remove Your Dom status...and what You get is what You get!

(01:41:07) SK's phaedra
says to ~angel~:
*nods* i am with you there lovely...cuz i am very badly behaved....so....i couldnt deal with someone who was too perfect...*thinks*..on the other hand....maybe i do need a less laid back attitude.....to see if proper behavior is actually possible...*bites at my nail n just ponders that to myself for a bit

(01:41:07)
~angel~
says to SK's phaedra ~precious puckb...: Im allowed to say I dont like that, even in the middle of a scene...doesnt mean he will nessacarily stop...just that I can make him aware of how I feel about it -l-

(01:41:11)
aaliyah
says to CanadianMale: Hello Sir

(01:41:12 ®)
Wraith{tyme}
says to ~angel~:
tyme paints bricks to look like erasers

(01:41:14) Smooth Edge says to tyme: *L* When One comes in late, One risks being repititious I guess

(01:41:41) Smooth Edge says to Wraith: I'm livin large thanks Wraith

(01:41:42)
~angel~
says to SK's phaedra ~precious puckb...: -smiles-...define badly behaved?

(01:41:55) SK's phaedra
says to Havoc:
thank You Sir...am terribly sorry for my tardiness and sad to have missed most of class.....*gives You my excused note that indicates i was off doin my taxes*

(01:42:06)
~angel~
says to Wraith: I thought I heard that thud -l-

(01:42:07) Smooth Edge says to andrea gail: Yes but you greeted ME while class was in session. *G*

(01:42:19 ®)
~andrea gail~
says to SK's phaedra ~precious puckb...: ~glances at you~....i wish i had known...i would have sent mine with you too...*S*

(01:42:33)
~angel~
says to Smooth Edge: runs up...curtsies....- greetings o' great SE...-g-

(01:42:39)
~angel~
says to Smooth Edge: hows that?-l-

(01:42:44 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to Smooth Edge: andi just wanted a spanking from the Teacher.....least that is my guess *w*

(01:42:48) SK's phaedra
says to everyone:
*bounces up in Daddy's chair and waves n smiles* evenin Eeveryone!!

(01:42:50) CanadianMale says to aaliyah: hello again girl

(01:42:55)
Havoc says to SK's phaedra ~precious puckb...: thank you ...and are you getting a refund?

(01:42:59) Smooth Edge says to ~angel~: Why hello there angel

(01:43:01 ®)
Wraith{tyme}
says to SK's phaedra ~precious puckb...:
govermental taxation slavery is not an acceptable excuse..*G*

(01:44:07) SK's phaedra
says to ~angel~:
*nodsnods* i can do the same....but SK is really very lax with me....i regularly confound Him with my brattitude....but secretly He likes it...because tis never boring wth me

(01:44:07) Smooth Edge says to tyme: andi deserves many a spanking, so one missed should pose no problem *S*

(01:44:21) Smooth Edge says to SK's phaedra ~precious puckb...: Evening

(01:44:22 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to everyone: before heading out..... i will be posting the class asap..... for those that did arrive late and want to read it from the beginning *s*

(01:44:24) SK's phaedra
says to ~angel~:
*whispers* not that properly behaved subs are boring....*sighs and just shuts up*

(01:44:51) Smooth Edge says to andrea gail: Good evening andi *G*

(01:44:57 ®)
~andrea gail~ says to Smooth Edge: ~yawns...blinks~.....what'd i do now?...geez

(01:45:18 ®)
Wraith's tyme
says to Wraith: smiles as i actually have time to ask properly..... may i leave now Sir *s* i will return later when i am finished *s*

(01:45:27)
~angel~
says to SK's phaedra ~precious puckb...: well....one persons lax is anothers to strict...goes back to SE's comment on there are many paths....do what works for both of you....not what others think your relationship should be

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